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Insulation of enameled copper wire
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12 years 10 months ago #756 by Archived Forum Admin
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Dear tech1,
Thank you very much for your information. Our oven lenght is 9 m and its temperature is 550°c. We produce 0.75 mm with speed 70m/min. What should be the speed for producing 1.50 mm using the formula V/D.
Best regards,
Wire
Thank you very much for your information. Our oven lenght is 9 m and its temperature is 550°c. We produce 0.75 mm with speed 70m/min. What should be the speed for producing 1.50 mm using the formula V/D.
Best regards,
Wire
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12 years 10 months ago #757 by Archived Forum Admin
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It's hard to answer this question without knowing more about your oven. There was a time when a V/D
for 1 mm wire was as low as 10-15. It looks like right now for 0.75 you have a V/d of about 52. What did the manufacturer tell you it should be for that size wire.
for 1 mm wire was as low as 10-15. It looks like right now for 0.75 you have a V/d of about 52. What did the manufacturer tell you it should be for that size wire.
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12 years 10 months ago #758 by Archived Forum Admin
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Using the V/D calculation, The 1.5mm should have a speed of approximately 35 m/min at the same temperatures as the .75mm .
Please keep in mind the using a V/D formula only gets you close to an operational speed and is not a given. Cure verification is always needed to determine optimal operating speeds and temperatures.
Please keep in mind the using a V/D formula only gets you close to an operational speed and is not a given. Cure verification is always needed to determine optimal operating speeds and temperatures.
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12 years 10 months ago #759 by Archived Forum Admin
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Tech 1: You are right about the V/D curves that come with most enameling ovens. Several years ago my experiences showed that when you went to Europe and looked at a piece of equipment they always performed better on Euro-enamels than on USA enamels. Not sure why. There was always a significant difference. When we could get the USA manufacture to try and match the Euro-enamels the speeds got better.
Typically the charts are for a single build, single enamel such as polyurethane or the modified polyesters. They seldom included 200 degree materials with various overcoats.
They are best when used as a guide and not as law.
Typically the charts are for a single build, single enamel such as polyurethane or the modified polyesters. They seldom included 200 degree materials with various overcoats.
They are best when used as a guide and not as law.
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12 years 10 months ago #760 by Archived Forum Admin
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Dear spectre07,
We got information from manufacturer and gave us V/D. We are now trying several diameters and will tell you if will success or not.
We got information from manufacturer and gave us V/D. We are now trying several diameters and will tell you if will success or not.
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12 years 10 months ago #761 by Archived Forum Admin
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Dear tech1,
How you can we check the tangent delta. Should we have an instrument ? If yes, How does it work and do you know a supplier of it. The second test you have suggested with alcohol, the coat of wire didn't crack.
Thank you
How you can we check the tangent delta. Should we have an instrument ? If yes, How does it work and do you know a supplier of it. The second test you have suggested with alcohol, the coat of wire didn't crack.
Thank you
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